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Popularity	Popular
Camp	Sacred Band
Nation
Record	52-19
KO Win %	50
Sub Win %	6
Division	MW	Weight	208 lbs
Age	998	Born	Apr 2009
Years Pro	1058	Recruit Date	Dec 1949
Rank	-	Highest Rank	#1
Retirement Rank	-

Fight IQ		Desire
Aggression		Patience

Wrestling		Conditioning
Catch Wrestling		Strength
Sambo		Footwork
Jiu Jitsu		Speed
Judo		Agility
Greco-Roman		Flexibility
Boxing		Balance
Karate		Reflex
Taekwondo		Rhythm
Muay Thai		Coordination
Brawling		Focus
Kickboxing		Fortitude

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Peasant
Club Casual

11-19-2008 4:02 am EST

lol yea its a bit like paper scissors rock

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 9:25 am EST

If you're just going to talk to yourself on your own page I can come back later. I guess seppuku would be a decent end for you after 4000 ducks and the slow strangulation you've inflicted upon yourself with your poorly sewn and unraveled arguments.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 9:17 am EST

If you have honor, the MMARMY equivalent of oibara seppuku is all that is left for you. Better to die with honor, than live with dishonor.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 9:13 am EST

That obviously had more to do with the comment I left on his fighter page. If it was Blaze or Hector or Crippler or one of his buddies, he would have given me the shot. I just took a look at some of MMA's fighters. Every time they were in my position, they got a rematch. Take from that what you will.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 9:11 am EST

"Do you have any honor? You just lost a title fight. How on Earth would you deserve a shot at the title, open challenge or not." ???

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 9:08 am EST

Obviously MMA, who has been in a lot of title match situations saw a flaw in your logic. Haha, I see you're a comedian now.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 9:04 am EST

I expected, another title shot as others have gotten in my position coming off 5 straight title wins immediately preceding my title loss. I followed up with a victory over a top contender. If you peruse the top fighters in the EFC & Glory, you will notice a pattern. After a string of title wins, a win following a title loss will usually guarantee a rematch for the title. Logic is based upon pattern recognition. I see no flaw in my logic.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 8:57 am EST

I'd say my frustration is dealing with a hypocrite like yourself. I have no problems losing matches but if you're going to call me a ducker and then pull a straight duck then we're going to have a problem. Also, Caio had 2 wins, you had 1, and I had 1. There was no guaranteed title shot for you. If you had any type of intelligence you would have fought Caio regardless.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 8:43 am EST

I realize that you need to take your frustration from 5463 fights and only 13 EFC titles somewhere. I feel bad for you, I really do. There is a saying, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Maybe, you need to take a break and move onto something else. Good luck with that.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 8:43 am EST

Are you really that dense? "I see no reason to fight the same guy over and over.." A title shot would be a good reason. I don't think my camp has ever been accused of ducking before. Oh, the irony.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 8:40 am EST

Once again, what I said "If i fight." That means the door was left open. As far as fighting a fighter that I had recently fought, it was a reference to your fighter. I had sent two challenges to Cleto, which I am sure you are aware of. Keep babbling on about the semantics, my intent was not that opaque. You are right when you say that it was poor judgment to assume that I would get a title shot. I assumed that from seeing how other guys at other weights got their rematches.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 8:40 am EST

No, you said you weren't fighting at all. "I really see no reason to fight the same guy over and over again." - In the last 6 months you fought Caio twice. Fighting him a 3rd time would count as "fight the same guy over and over again." And no one was guaranteed a shot. Caio got it because he fought, won, and didn't duck like you did. Konovalov had the title shot in the PM. Plus my other guy was top 5 in the org. These excuses you come up with to not fight are very inconsistent and quite p

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 8:28 am EST

I said, If I fight, it would be someone different. The door was left open for a meaningful match. It made no sense to fight a washed up fighter in his decline. Obviously, if someone told me to fight Caio or Konovalov for a #1 contender spot and a shot at the title I would have. That is common sense. I thought I would get the next shot. -I didn't see any specific reference to Caio above. Once again, bahaha at ducking you.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 8:27 am EST

Also, my guy got the AM title shot but Cleto missed weight. So I was told by the champ to wait until the PM. You made a poor presumption thinking you would get a shot.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 8:23 am EST

"I am waiting for a shot at the title" - Purposely sitting out. "I really see no reason to fight the same guy over and over again." - Caio, Cleto, and my guy all fit into that category. "If I knew Caio would be up next I would have fought him last session." - Contradiction to the previous statement. "I was kept in the dark and didn't figure it out until it was too late. I had just beat him and didn't think he would jump me in line." - He didn't jump anyone. He fought and didn't si

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 8:17 am EST

What I said, "Same reason your boy Maksim Konovalov did not fight last month. I am waiting for a shot at the title and I really see no reason to fight the same guy over and over again. I fought you a couple of months back. If I fight, it will be against somebody different. You got a chance to fight someone you haven't fought in over a year."

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 8:04 am EST

No, you said you were purposely sitting out AND that you didn't want to fight people you fought recently, ahem, like Caio. Please come up with better and more consistent excuses next time you pull a duck.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 7:51 am EST

If I knew Caio would be up next I would have fought him last session. I was kept in the dark and didn't figure it out until it was too late. I had just beat him and didn't think he would jump me in line. Bahaha, ducking you.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-18-2008 7:40 am EST

When did I duck you again? For a guy who has only has 64 fights during > 10 year career and just recently ducked my guy you sure like to talk a lot.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-18-2008 6:55 am EST

I am usually more open to challenges from camps that don't have a reputation for ducking.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-17-2008 8:56 pm EST

So I guess whoever wins in Cleto vs. Caio tomorrow you won't fight since you fought them both recently.

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-17-2008 5:09 pm EST

Why did you deny my challenge earlier?

Teshore
No Surrender

11-17-2008 4:38 pm EST

wow...i gave the guy the fight cause i missed weight this AM...you dont have to be a dick about it

Teshore
No Surrender

11-16-2008 4:05 pm EST

thanks for accepting

Teshore
No Surrender

11-16-2008 10:26 am EST

ooppsss :)

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-15-2008 9:36 pm EST

Waiting for challenge and going to bed. Top contender that sends a challenge before AM reset will get fight.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-15-2008 9:36 pm EST

Waiting for challenge and going to bed. Top contender that sends a challenge before AM reset will get fight.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-15-2008 2:44 pm EST

I would love too, but there are too many guys in line for a shot at the MW title in the MW division at the moment.

The Robj23
NCAA

11-15-2008 12:12 pm EST

How about a possible title match with current Welterweight EFC champ Noah Anderson at middleweight?

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-15-2008 6:57 am EST

Chachi's two guys and Tanner Nomad's guy are the front runners for the PM title shot. I will take a close look at quality of victories before I give the PM shot.

Pinky
Jungle Fever

11-15-2008 1:12 am EST

Let's do this. -Gan Parker.

Jat
Camp Fire

11-14-2008 8:14 pm EST

Thanks for the title shot, I'm very thankful for it - Dean Reed

Maluco
CST

11-14-2008 4:14 am EST

congrats man! rematch? Caio Babenco

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-11-2008 3:53 pm EST

Nope, i never saw a challenge from you.

Teshore
No Surrender

11-9-2008 4:38 pm EST

just saw your message and fought another fighter...sorry get a win and we can fight again in the AM if my fighter doesnt retire :)

Chachi
TheChachiTeam

11-9-2008 11:49 am EST

When did you challenge me with this guy? I never got a challenge from you.

C
Cs Cupcakes

11-9-2008 9:48 am EST

Hmmm. Had it pegged perfectly but somehow lost? Normally, SIO would have crushed FF. Good fight.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-9-2008 6:26 am EST

Caio, Lundy, Konovalov - unanswered challenges

Teshore
No Surrender

11-7-2008 5:38 pm EST

Yhanks for giving Devon a shot!

Teshore
No Surrender

11-7-2008 2:10 pm EST

Very Great fight...Maybe DEVON KELLY gets a shot?

Teshore
No Surrender

11-6-2008 6:45 pm EST

send me the challenge

RobJ
Team Smash

11-5-2008 2:20 am EST

sounds good couple wins should do it

RobJ
Team Smash

11-4-2008 8:49 pm EST

wow just read the pbp awesome fight man

RobJ
Team Smash

11-4-2008 8:47 pm EST

good war though

RobJ
Team Smash

11-4-2008 8:47 pm EST

my bad 2-1 for you

RobJ
Team Smash

11-4-2008 8:45 pm EST

thanks for the shot man great fight 1-1 now

RobJ
Team Smash

11-4-2008 7:33 pm EST

ok thats fair man

Jisoo Kim
Team Chi

11-4-2008 8:47 am EST

dexter always seem to have trouble against chop down..good fight

C
Cs Cupcakes

11-3-2008 5:01 pm EST

Good fight man, this guy is solid. Thought I had you with SIO but it must have went to your back up style fairly quick.

Epaminondas
Sacred Band

11-2-2008 7:18 am EST

Team Smash, your guy was coming off two losses. There were title fights, but you lost two title fights in a row. Ranking is important, but so is recent record.

RobJ
Team Smash

10-30-2008 5:54 pm EST

thats why you lost

RobJ
Team Smash

10-30-2008 5:53 pm EST

so i beat you and beat the guy you gave the shot to and was ranked number 1 and i don't get the shot ok i see how it is chump

RobJ
Team Smash

10-30-2008 4:37 pm EST

ranked number 1 and i beat guys right behind me already

RobJ
Team Smash

10-30-2008 4:00 pm EST

title shot ?

RobJ
Team Smash

10-24-2008 8:04 pm EST

great fight man i thought you won though

GRRRRRNOLL
The Punishers

10-15-2008 11:50 pm EST

Hey Champ give Sal Young a shot!

Jester
Pain and Glory

10-15-2008 6:38 pm EST

Good fight, I usually try to fight the #1 contender so you were very deserving of your win good luck in the future!

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